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Grateful Dead Live at Old Renaissance Faire Grounds on 1972-08-27


Topics Live concert


Promised Land, Sugaree, Me & My Uncle, Deal, Black Throated Wind, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Mexicali Blues, Bertha Playin' In The Band, He's Gone, Jack Straw, Bird Song, Greatest Story Ever Told Dark Star-> El Paso, Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia, Casey Jones, One More Saturday Night


Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Old Renaissance Faire Grounds
Location Veneta, OR

Source Bertha Remaster of the <a href= "/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=16582">Braverman/Dank 16 track source</a>.SBD>>MR>>DAT>>SS>>CDA>>EAC>>SHN>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA/SHN - Sound A(Between songs from the two-track master reels)

Notes

Bertha Remaster of the Braverman/Dank 16 track source.
SBD>>MR>>DAT>>SS>>CDA>>EAC>>SHN>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA/SHN - Sound A
(Between songs from the two-track master reels)

Reviews

Reviewer: wabisabi0214 - - August 2, 2013
Subject: Reverb on Vocals
I would echo, no pun intended, previous reviews about the vocals on this version. Although I like the sound of the insturments, especially Phil on bass, the reverb quality of all the vocals does not sound natural at all. Check out the 16 track versions if you don't like the "dead air"/banter after the songs.
Reviewer: Evan S. Hunt - - August 28, 2011
Subject: A "FURTHUR" Extension of 8-25-72 BCT Part two
Excellent PITB and Dark Star. Simply/Just/Coltrane goes on and on past the galaxy of exquisite.

By far, this Bertha Remaster is the best of the bunch of the other offerings on archives.org.
Reviewer: Wally Gator - - April 10, 2011
Subject: Playin'
I really like this version's "Playin' In the Band".
Reviewer: PigpenLives - - November 25, 2010
Subject: rreevveerrbb
I don't get why the reverb was added in this remix. It makes the band sounds like they were performing inside an empty warehouse.

This is otherwise pretty good - better levels, especially bass, than any other version currently on the archive.

But the reverb - I just can't take it.
Reviewer: BornEasement - - March 16, 2010
Subject: favorite mix of a phenomenal show
To be honest, the allure of this show eluded me for a long time. It just seemed like the same band that went on Europe 72... minus pig. why not just turn to 5-26 or 5-4? This mix, however, managed to bring out what was special about this show. The band is spot on, bouncy and tight the whole way through. Even good vocal harmonies on Bird Song! Keith and Phil seem particularly into it, and jerry hardly flubs a note the whole way through. Thanks Bertha. You showed me a band charging through their mate's absence with all the poise and grace of that European tour, and a few new tunes to boot.
Reviewer: Silverstein - - April 27, 2009
Subject: Agree with Herschel
Hey hey. I love the Bertha remasters from Jay, however, I found the vocals on this to have kind of little echo on them. I'm listening on headphones and that could contribute to the sound. There are three great mixes of this show on here. Any of them will do you well.

And please, dudes, let's not give 1 star ratings to these shows when we get error messages or can't figure out how to download them. The Bertha remaster has an average rating of 3 because someone gave it a 1 star rating with a comment about "how can I..." Please just rate the playing and sound quality. Thanks much
Reviewer: Northbound Train71 - - April 22, 2009
Subject: Incredible !!!
Great sound and fantastic DS, Birdsong and Sing Me Back Home.

Thanks a bunch...
Reviewer: rollingthunder2332 - - March 25, 2009
Subject: What a show!
This has been one of my favorite shows that I have collected from the Dead over the 25 years I have been collecting shows. The Dark Star>El Paso is cosmic and the Bird Song is something that is out of this world. That being said, this show has some of there best short songs. Like Jack Straw, Promised Land (which I think is their best version), & Greatest Story Ever Told. I have heard many different versions of this show and this is hands down THE BEST!!! I have 5 different sources of this show and I like this one the best, but don't listen to me, listen for yourself. ENJOY!!
Reviewer: bklyndave - - August 27, 2008
Subject: 72 rocks
you got it 72 was a great year for the dead. i love this site.
Reviewer: richcpl - - March 2, 2005
Subject: !PLEH
I'm getting a "Forbidden" message when I try to download this. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Reviewer: herschelkrustofsky - - January 2, 2005
Subject: not a fan of the remix
While this show is indeed rightfully legendary I don't believe that this is the version to download. I had the show listed as SBD>16 track master reel copy for some time and figured I would give this a try to see what the remastering was all about. The most noticable difference is in the vocals. While they are brought more strongly to the front, the remix gives them a synthetic feel. This is particularly true with Bobby's vocals. His seem to have a little fuzz to them as well. If the mix is not quite as clean on the reels, I still prefer them for their authentic sound and feel. My favorite of the 3 versions of this show that are available at this time is the one listed as SBD> 16 track master reels. This is absolutely a 5+ show for the playing but I give 3 stars for the remix.
Reviewer: Leigh Orf - - December 18, 2004
Subject: There are many circulating versions - this one is the most processed
This show is available from three different sources (Betty Reels, Sunshine Daydream reels, and 16 track masters). Each of these three sources has different post-processed versions, some of which were done to remove crackle/pops existing on the originals, some to change the pitch because the original reels were spinning a bit too fast or slow, and, with this version, a heaping dollup of equalization, compression/limiting, and reverb applied to most of the original 16 tracks before mixing it down.

This remastering gives the show a very studio-processed sound. In my opinion, it detracts from the 'live-show feel' as the vast majority of Dead boards (and most other bands) have a rather dry sound to them because they lack this post-processing, but this dry sound is more true, in my opinion, to the original event. Those of you who prefer audience recordings will no doubt disagree with me on this!

I would recommend downloading this version, the other 16 track version (my pesonal favorite), the one I remastered from the Sunshine Daydream reels (my second personal favorite :) and the Betty reels (which sound muddy to me) and decide for yourself. Or burn all four and choose depending on your mood.

Leigh Orf
Reviewer: Ru1974 - - November 28, 2004
Subject: This is the best sounding Aug 27th 1972
Awesome remaster of a classic show! Blasted out of my speakers thanks to a powerful sounding Phil Lesh but everyone comes across brilliantly. Unbelievable energy!
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